russ ([info]goulo) wrote,
@ 2008-02-15 14:22:00
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McCain
John McCain thinks withdrawing from Iraq "means undoing all the success we've achieved and al Qaeda tells the world they defeated the United States of America." Besides laughing at the so-called successes, I think that's like somebody putting their hand into a meat grinder and then saying they should keep it there because pulling out the hand means undoing all the success they've achieved, and the meat grinder tells the world it defeated them. In reality, the person defeated themselves by stupidly putting their hand into the meat grinder, and Bush defeated the United States of America by stupidly invading Iraq.

John McCain pensas ke eliri el Irako "signifas malfari ĉiun sukceson kiun ni faris kaj Al-Kaida fanfaronas ke ili venkis Usonon." Krom ridi pri la supozeblaj sukcesoj, mi pensas ke tio similas al ulo kiu metas sian manon en viandomuelilon kaj poste diras ke li restu tia ĉar forpreni la manon signifas malfari ĉiun sukceson kiun li faris, kaj la viandomuelilo fanfaronas ke ĝi venkis lin. Sed reale li venkis sin per stulta enmetado de la mano en la viandomuelilon, kaj Bush venkis Usonon per stulta invado en Irakon.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/14/mccain.king/index.html


McCain jokes and sings about bombing Iran
McCain ŝercas kaj kantas pri bombado kontraŭ Irano
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I


Amusing video with will.i.am which quotes McCain and his happy attitude to war. "Like hope, but different."
Amuza filmeto kiu will.i.am citas McCain kaj lian feliĉan sintenon pri milito. "Kiel espero, sed malsama."
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3gwqEneBKUs


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[info]the_bus
2008-02-15 06:05 pm UTC (link)
The Republicans and their shills are doing their worst in painting Clinton and Obama as the candidates of defeat in Iraq. I'm seeing editorials to that effect regularly.

The funny thing is, they never really define or even suggest what success is. A stable democracy? A dead al Qaeda? Iraqis just not killing each other? Who knows.

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[info]gwalla
2008-02-16 04:25 am UTC (link)
Success is the death of all "ragheads".

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[info]greyaenigma
2008-02-15 07:35 pm UTC (link)
I think "success we've achieved" is code for "vast sums of money paid out to Halliburton and Blackwater, who will then fund the GOP".

And, it's worth noting the meat grinder analogy is flawed -- it's like getting someone else to stick their hand in the meat grinder. The original analogy only works if McCain cared about the Americans getting hurt.

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[info]the_bus
2008-02-15 10:31 pm UTC (link)
Coincidentally today a coworker tipped me off to the Anti-patterns entry in Wikipedia, which links to the highly appropriate "Escalation of commitment" anti-pattern.

I wish the Democrats could find a catchy phrase along the lines of "irrational escalation" to help everyone see what Bush and Co. actually mean when they say "victory in Iraq", "stay the course", and "resolute".

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[info]zooplah
2008-02-23 12:37 am UTC (link)
Yeah, we were reading about Escalation of Commitment in Business class the other day. Managers and leaders don't want to abandon bad ideas, but it's best for the business to get rid of things that are wasting money. Maybe the Repugs (sorry) should evaluate how the government and its policies are like a business; after all, that's what all of their policies favor, right?

BTW, I love the meat grinder metaphor.

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